diff --git a/docs/idea-jiqun-voice-skill.md b/docs/idea-jiqun-voice-skill.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..f54fa91 --- /dev/null +++ b/docs/idea-jiqun-voice-skill.md @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +# Idea: distill Master Jiqun's way of talk (语气) into a skill + +Date: 2026-07-20 +Status: idea / not scheduled + +## Background + +Reviewer feedback on a translated article: translations must preserve Master +Jiqun's 语气 — the speaker's voice and manner — not just the tone (register, +formality). A translation can have the right register and still flatten the +teacher's voice. + +As a first step, a "Speaker's Voice (语气)" section was added to +`skills/mpi-translation/SKILL.md`, and check D3 in +`skills/mpi-translation-review/SKILL.md` was expanded to verify 语气 markers. +That covers the immediate need, but the knowledge is currently a short bullet +list inside a general skill. + +## Idea + +Distill Master Jiqun's way of talk into a dedicated skill (or a reference doc +under `skills/mpi-translation/references/`), built from evidence across many +of his talks: + +- Collect characteristic passages (source + approved translations) from the + terms DB (`loc` fields) and finished articles in `translate-files/`. +- Catalog his recurring devices: rhetorical question chains, first-person + asides (我经常说 / 我曾在讲座中 / 由此我想到), reasoning connectives + (可见 / 所以说 / 事实上), homely analogies (rotting apple, leaking boat, + teacup, face mask), gentle admonition with humor, measured unhurried + authority, inclusive we/you address. +- For each device, give approved English renderings and common failure modes + (e.g. question → declaration, "我经常说" → "it is said"). +- Possibly also cover delivery/register differences between his oral talks, + essays, and micro-blog posts. + +## Open questions + +- Standalone skill vs. reference doc under `mpi-translation`? A reference doc + is probably enough; a full skill may be overkill. +- Who approves the example translations used as evidence? +- Should it also cover other MPI teachers, or stay Jiqun-specific? diff --git a/skills/mpi-translation-review/SKILL.md b/skills/mpi-translation-review/SKILL.md index 90f9ae1..74f6e58 100644 --- a/skills/mpi-translation-review/SKILL.md +++ b/skills/mpi-translation-review/SKILL.md @@ -85,9 +85,13 @@ issue with line/paragraph references. - **D2 Cultural anachronism.** Modern concepts projected onto classical material. Example: translating 般若 as "wisdom" in a scholarly context may flatten the term; in a popular talk it may be exactly right. -- **D3 Tone / voice of the teacher.** For oral talks, preserve the speaker's - warmth, rhetorical questions, and direct address. Do not flatten into essay - prose. +- **D3 Tone AND voice (语气) of the teacher.** For oral talks, preserve the + speaker's warmth, rhetorical questions, and direct address. Beyond register, + check the 语气 markers in `../mpi-translation/SKILL.md` → "Speaker's Voice + (语气)": rhetorical questions kept as questions, first-person teacher asides + ("我经常说") kept in first person, reasoning connectives (可见, 所以说) + preserved, inclusive we/you address, homely analogies left concrete, gentle + rather than scolding admonition. Do not flatten into essay prose. - **D4 Implicit meaning / implicature.** What the source implies but does not say (e.g., irony, conventional politeness, Gricean maxims). Ensure the implication survives or is compensated. diff --git a/skills/mpi-translation/SKILL.md b/skills/mpi-translation/SKILL.md index 6a7ad64..8732fc7 100644 --- a/skills/mpi-translation/SKILL.md +++ b/skills/mpi-translation/SKILL.md @@ -41,6 +41,40 @@ Quick-find in index: Thầy talks → `"Thích Nhất Hạnh"` + page ≤ 10; te 4. **Voice**: Direct address ("you"), concrete images, and oral rhythm make Dharma land in English. Abstract noun chains (common in Chinese→English translationese) kill it. 5. **Sutra quotes**: Use standard English Buddhist idiom. Check terse-idiom conventions (e.g., Diamond Sutra "lives" not "bodies"). +## Speaker's Voice (语气) + +Tone (register, formality) is not enough — preserve the speaker's 语气: the +stance and manner carried by sentence mood. Reviewers have flagged translations +that got the tone right but flattened the teacher's voice. 语气 lives in: + +- **Sentence mood.** Rhetorical questions stay questions ("幸福在哪里?" → + "Where is happiness?", not "Happiness is nowhere to be found."). + Exclamations and wonder stay exclamatory. Do not convert the speaker's + questioning into declarations. +- **First-person teacher asides.** 济群法师 often speaks in his own voice: + "我经常说……", "我曾在讲座中多次谈到……", "由此我想到……". Keep the + first person — do not flatten to "it is often said" or impersonal prose. + These asides are how he establishes presence with the audience. +- **Reasoning connectives.** His talks argue step by step: 可见, 所以说, + 事实上, 问题在于. Render the logical gait ("So it is clear that…", "That + is why…", "In fact…") rather than dropping it — the reasoned, + unhurried persuasion IS his voice. +- **Inclusive address.** Default "we" for shared human condition, "you" when + he turns to the listener. Do not drift into abstract third person ("one", + "people") where the source speaks as teacher-to-audience. +- **Everyday analogies, plainly told.** Rotting apples, leaking boats, + teacups, face masks — keep the homely image concrete and unvarnished; + do not upgrade it to literary language or explain it away. +- **Gentle admonition, never scolding.** He points out folly with warmth and + a little humor (the "有点烦" pop song, Mo Yan's dodge). Keep the lightness; + avoid both sermonizing severity and jokey casualness. +- **Measured authority.** Calm, composed, unhurried. No hype, no exclamation- + point enthusiasm, no academic hedging ("arguably", "it could be said"). + +Check: read a paragraph aloud as if delivering a talk to a lay audience. If it +sounds like an essay, a lecture abstract, or a motivational speaker, the 语气 +has been lost. + ## Pitfalls ### Pre-flight accuracy check